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idea for an arena server

Postby mr_slippyfist » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:06 pm

So i have this idea for an arena server... it is somewhat like Nox..

It would be like Evidyon/Xen except without saved levels and gear.
When you log onto the server you create a character, choose race and class, distribute 100 stat points and log on.
The map would provide everything you need for PvP: gear, potions etc would spawn on the ground every so often.
Multiple maps would be cycled with different game modes such as capture the flag, team deathmatch etc.
No PvE/leveling just PvP for the hell of it!

Let me know what you think guys.

Also TO KARL: would this be easy to implement? i would be willing to help in making the maps and anything else it involves.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Karl G. » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:02 pm

This is definitely do-able...and actually it's WAY easier than implementing a "full" game and is practically finished right now. I could just focus on spells, items, and combo moves :)

Has a concept like this ever been tested? It seems really interesting...I just have one reservation: if this were in parallel with a regular-style game, wouldn't it remove all desire to level and get that next cool spell or item?

If you've ever played planetside, that's what this idea reminds me of. That or counter-strike...or quake....
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Serenity » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:37 pm

well the way I see it, I would like to have a stress breaker before/after leveling a character. maybe you lost some gear or something and need to pulverize some people.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby mr_slippyfist » Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:36 am

Karl G. wrote:Has a concept like this ever been tested? It seems really interesting...I just have one reservation: if this were in parallel with a regular-style game, wouldn't it remove all desire to level and get that next cool spell or item?



the arena items could be named/designed for each class i.e. "warrior's carapace", "wizard's robe or health" "wizard's robe of magic". maybe 3 or 4 of these sets for each class that are not found inside the evidyon game. also it would be really cool to have staffs/wands that have spell charges like hex mortis hydra!


also check out nox! its very similar to this idea!
http://noxhub.net/
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby thadiusofx3 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:24 pm

Or have it where it imports your characters from the regular server in minus the gear and just have you find gear and pvp to your hearts content.
This would make leveling in the real server desireable because your character on the pvp server would be more powerful, but would also give lower levels a chance to fight because they could find better gear there.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby mr_slippyfist » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:44 pm

thadiusofx3 wrote:Or have it where it imports your characters from the regular server in minus the gear and just have you find gear and pvp to your hearts content.
This would make leveling in the real server desireable because your character on the pvp server would be more powerful, but would also give lower levels a chance to fight because they could find better gear there.


that would just make it like in-game pvp with generic gear. BORING!
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby 9sam1 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:02 pm

Karl G. wrote:Has a concept like this ever been tested? It seems really interesting...I just have one reservation: if this were in parallel with a regular-style game, wouldn't it remove all desire to level and get that next cool spell or item?


Karl, if people would prefer playing this pvp server all the time over the regular game, that means your doing something wrong. Hopefully you can make the normal game good enough so that people won't get so bored that all they want to do is pvp (ex. Xenimus)
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Karl G. » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:21 pm

9sam1 wrote:
Karl G. wrote:Has a concept like this ever been tested? It seems really interesting...I just have one reservation: if this were in parallel with a regular-style game, wouldn't it remove all desire to level and get that next cool spell or item?


Karl, if people would prefer playing this pvp server all the time over the regular game, that means your doing something wrong. Hopefully you can make the normal game good enough so that people won't get so bored that all they want to do is pvp (ex. Xenimus)


That's what I was getting at...if people just want to pvp, then why bother going through all the trouble of making the rest of the game?

This post has given me a good idea though :) I'll talk about it soon.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby 9sam1 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:30 pm

I dont think people JUST want to pvp, but adding an arena server or something would be a fun thing to play every now.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby mr_slippyfist » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:57 pm

i think the game would attract a larger crowd this way. truth be told: some people just don't have the time to play mmos. this would allow for those people to still enjoy the most original aspect of the game - the PvP system. also, it would allow current players to test/plan certain builds. last of all, for new players who are unfamiliar with xen and evidyon, this would be an easy and fun way to learn the ropes of the game!

all in all it would allow for some interesting gameplay :mrgreen:
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Nirvana9832 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:15 am

okay well in My oppinion, If something like this was done.. People would play it, get even more bored and stop playing sooner. Like if you look at any High-Rate servers of Any game there is. you get bored faster. This might be a little different in PV. because its still in the mix of testing and what not. but im gonna have to give the idea Basicly a 60/40.(60 being Aggreeing to this) It would be Fun yes. and in a way Not fully great? Not sure. Give it a shot XD
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Cagen » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:44 am

It would detract from the main game and potentially ruin world pvp. Also on the arena server there would be no risk-reward for playing it. It seems like a good way for carebear players to pvp without losing any gear, pretty boring.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Karl G. » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:17 am

Cagen wrote:It would detract from the main game and potentially ruin world pvp. Also on the arena server there would be no risk-reward for playing it. It seems like a good way for carebear players to pvp without losing any gear, pretty boring.

That's what I'm worried about. But...I've integrated a solution!
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Cagen » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:20 am

Cool, I just hope it doesn't detract from world PvP.

The day battlegrounds were released on WoW was the day I started disliking the game.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Richard. UK » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:21 am

I do tend to agree with Cagen on this subject, I do like the whole essence of being able to find fun in pvp'ing with "Risk", knowing that you are fighting for "survival". It is hard to find a balance for everyone to enjoy the PVP aspects, but i think that the Arena server could be developed for tournaments within the game possibly?

This could involve team tournaments, Free for All Tournaments and things. This would be an added bonus to the game as opposed to a separable world for different viewpoints.

These tournaments could provide the winners or winner, with amounts of in game currency? or actual hard to find treasures. These tournaments could be held on a monthly basis or something along those lines maybe? This could be a communal even which is what I always refer to, things that will get everyone involved together and allow people to get to know each others ways and skills.

Obviously the tournaments would be level gap specific for different levels!


See what you think :)


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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby kuba » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:37 pm

I agree, as cool as it would be to instantly have all the spells and high level gear in an arena server, the motivation to earn these on the regular server wouldn't be as high and it WOULD detract from regular server PVP.

I'm more against the idea than for it, but if it is something players would like then I'd be more supportive of an arena like Richard suggested where your character from the regular server is transferred over and there aren't any penalties / gear loss to PVP, along with additional PVP featuers such as tournaments, etc.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Serenity » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:43 pm

For the sake of the game, I wouldn't add it. I like the idea of a weekly/monthly competition in an arena style.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby mr_slippyfist » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:50 pm

in game gear shouldn't be used. nor in game characters... to make it an even playing field. get it?
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby kuba » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:21 am

Ok but you're still going to have a character at high level with high level gear and high level skills/spells.. That takes away from those who earn it on the regular server. If you can log on and have everything in game then you won't have the same desire to earn them.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Karl G. » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:11 am

I'd like to point out that this is a null discussion...there is not going to be an "arena server" persay. However, I haven't thrown out the concept entirely and something like it *will* be implemented in the game.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby mr_slippyfist » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:32 pm

rats >:(
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby zedd » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:26 am

i think a monthly like ffa tourny would be kinda cool. :-D like every 10 levels for lvl gaps, could compete, and get currency or item, i think that was a pretty decent idea. were u just use ur chars u lvl, and cant loes gear or anything while in there. would be kinda neet to do once a month.
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Karl G. » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:10 pm

zedd wrote:i think a monthly like ffa tourny would be kinda cool. :-D like every 10 levels for lvl gaps, could compete, and get currency or item, i think that was a pretty decent idea. were u just use ur chars u lvl, and cant loes gear or anything while in there. would be kinda neet to do once a month.

That's kinda cool--I would like that idea :)
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby zedd » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:30 pm

lol, was richards persons, i mite just filled in more details i think. :P
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Re: idea for an arena server

Postby Serenity » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:12 pm

what I was thinking would be just a standard tournament where you enter and are put up against a randomly selected opponent. The winner then moves on to the next round, and so on. I'm not sure what the winner would get, but it could be something like a week's worth of a damage bonus or something.
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