Unseen Studios

• Teleporting while running is bugged according to Karl, however I could never do it before this update and now I can.
• The inventory's scroll bars are hard to grab, you have to click just right of the bar.
• The first time I log in to my account I have to click on my characters name twice to log into that character.
• Game becomes completely unresponsive with 15+ mobs on the screen.
• Dead bodies sometimes slide across the map.
• When trying to pick up a pile of items when you have a full inventory it makes it impossible for anyone else to pick up the pile.

• Tab toggles the displaying of player/mob names instead of having to hold it.

• Dropped items could do with staying on the ground longer, at least for the time being as we have no way to transport across the map and only having one spawn point.

• I still get stuck inside mobs if I run into them.
• The included map is the old version and not the one Karl recompiled with the fixed edges.
• Edge of the safe square (1 tile off the square) is still attackable from but not attackable on. You can not take damage but you can deal it.
• Inventory scroll bar does not reset to the top after you close and reopen the inventory window (the actual inventory does however).
• When picking up items, placement into inventory seems to be random unless your inventory is cached on the server after logging out/a set period of time.
• Mobs still spawn inside mountains, haven't seen any in the water yet though it is the same bug.
• When equipping items, inventory resets its self back to the top.

• No way to delete your characters.
  
• Non adepts need more balancing, possibly more mp regen or more mp for caster classes while adepts are still in the game as they can't compete with no consumables.
  
• Mob placement needs to be fixed, you should go from newb/easy mobs out side of the spawn and the further out you go the harder the mobs get so there is some kind of progression. Right now they seem to be placed all over the place randomly.
  
• Also I have yet to find any kind of designated area with perpetual spawn like a graveyard or a castle, it just seems to be never ending fields. However this may be me not finding anything.
  
• You may have made the map a little too large as the spawn pockets seem to be spread rather thin and it is hard to navigate from the spawn back to areas further afield that you were hunting at with no landmarks (this links with there being no designated hunting areas, again I may be wrong on this).
  
• Chat box/chat log needs to be added.
  
• Scroll wheel should scroll through inventory.
  
• You must click after typing /respawn for the client to update the players position.
  
• Having the damage reflect off characters on the square means you can not pvp/pk anywhere near the square on the mage type, at least not on a wiz when our best spell is an aoe, as it justs kills us instantly. Square hoppers use this to their advantage.
  
• Updater should tell the user they have the most up to date client if this is true.

Cagen wrote:When trying to pick up a pile of items when you have a full inventory it makes it impossible for anyone else to pick up the pile.

Cagen wrote:Dead bodies sometimes slide across the map.

Cagen wrote:Teleporting while running is bugged according to Karl, however I could never do it before this update and now I can.

Cagen wrote:Tab toggles the displaying of player/mob names instead of having to hold it

Cagen wrote:Edge of the safe square (1 tile off the square) is still attackable from but not attackable on. You can not take damage but you can deal it.

Cagen wrote:The included map is the old version and not the one Karl recompiled with the fixed edges.

Cagen wrote:When picking up items, placement into inventory seems to be random unless your inventory is cached on the server after logging out/a set period of time.

Cagen wrote:Mobs still spawn inside mountains, haven't seen any in the water yet though it is the same bug.

Cagen wrote:Non adepts need more balancing, possibly more mp regen or more mp for caster classes while adepts are still in the game as they can't compete with no consumables.

Cagen wrote:Mob placement needs to be fixed, you should go from newb/easy mobs out side of the spawn and the further out you go the harder the mobs get so there is some kind of progression. Right now they seem to be placed all over the place randomly.

Cagen wrote:Also I have yet to find any kind of designated area with perpetual spawn like a graveyard or a castle, it just seems to be never ending fields. However this may be me not finding anything.

Cagen wrote:You must click after typing /respawn for the client to update the players position.

Cagen wrote:Having the damage reflect off characters on the square means you can not pvp/pk anywhere near the square on the mage type, at least not on a wiz when our best spell is an aoe, as it justs kills us instantly. Square hoppers use this to their advantage.

Cagen wrote:Updater should tell the user they have the most up to date client if this is true.

Karl G. wrote:Thanks for the comprehensive list, Cagen. I have responses and some questions for you:

Cagen wrote:When trying to pick up a pile of items when you have a full inventory it makes it impossible for anyone else to pick up the pile.

What does this mean? Do you mean you feel it's a bug that players are able to stand on a pile and "guard" it? I'm just not sure what you're talking about.

Ok, earlier I dropped a pile of items around 10 from my main character and tried to pick them up with one of my storage characters on another account, both of which were logged in at the same time. My storage character picked up 2 of the items but then his inventory was full, I then went back to my main character to pick up the items but I was unable to do so. Like Sankt said, it seems to mark the items as not being there anymore (as they should be in the storage characters inventory) however they are still on the ground.

Cagen wrote:Edge of the safe square (1 tile off the square) is still attackable from but not attackable on. You can not take damage but you can deal it.

You are able to attack from inside of the safe SQ right now. I am debating whether to change this: my intent was that people inside the square would be able to defend against higher-level harassing PKers without exposing themselves to harm. I can see how it would be a problem though. Any ideas?

While Xen had this implemented it was amusing to kill people from the square though highly unfair and removing it was completely justified. In my opinion you should not be able to be attacked or attack from the square while stood on it. To combat square jumping a bit, there should be a system that if you attack someone without killing them (you are the aggressor) and jump to the safety square it will have no effect for you for X time period, however if you are attacked by someone and jump to the square it will act as the safety square should and defend you. This could go into more depth by making the safety square have no effect for X time period if you aren't the aggressor but stay in battle for X time period. This makes it a little more fair for the aggressor as the other person wont be able to fight for a while and as soon as they start to lose or get low on consumables just jump straight to the safety square.

Cagen wrote:When picking up items, placement into inventory seems to be random unless your inventory is cached on the server after logging out/a set period of time.

Would it be better if it were sorted by time last picked up? It wouldn't be too much trouble to put the items at the top of the list.

Items you pick up should go at the end of you inventory list, after items you were already holding.

Cagen wrote:Non adepts need more balancing, possibly more mp regen or more mp for caster classes while adepts are still in the game as they can't compete with no consumables.

Adepts will be removed for 1.9; after that, I agree the classes need to be rebalanced.

Can we have an official statement on what will be happening to adepts and/or normal characters? You said to sankt and I that they will be replaced with normal classes, I assume of equal level, at random.

Cagen wrote:Mob placement needs to be fixed, you should go from newb/easy mobs out side of the spawn and the further out you go the harder the mobs get so there is some kind of progression. Right now they seem to be placed all over the place randomly.

There is a progression (at least, I designed one). The center path from nexus is the easiest stuff. Slightly harder is the left path. The toughest stuff is past the mountains and on the right path around the lake thing.

There is some progression of easier from the spawn radiating out, the problem I have with it is that there are apprentice and novice all over the place and only small pockets of the mobs with no prefix, the masters and experts are plenty as not many people can hunt them.

Example: Nightcrawlers > novice/apprentice > no prefix > novice/apprentice > masters/novice/apprentice/no prefix > expert

sanktistooboredtologin wrote:Basically that means that projectiles don't disappear aslong as you stay on screen with them. :p

speed3b wrote:

sanktistooboredtologin wrote:Basically that means that projectiles don't disappear aslong as you stay on screen with them. :p

I think they do. Or they did before this update. They travel about 1 and a half fully screen lengths before dissipating. Its just its easy to catch up to and hit them if you have a lot of + faster movement items on.

Sankt Pauli wrote:Don't know if it's new or you allready know about it:
Keys get reset everytime you log in/out, which is due to no key-files being created anymore. :Y

Sankt Pauli wrote:They only work on older chars for me, more recently created ones don't have keyfiles in the 'evidyon' directory.
Try making a new char and check it out, i'm not sure if it's just me.

Sankt Pauli wrote:Hehe, ages of mapping experience made me a good bug catcher i guess. ^_^

Another one i didn't see being mentioned:
When you level up, HP/MP jumps to the new bases instantly. Let's say you have 700HP and 60MP, you kill a mob, get the level up and the same second your HP/MP jumps to the new base HP/MP, maybe 200/15 in this case. Result is a gruesome death. :p

Edit: I'm just guessing it's the new bases here, because my HP/MP gets really low after a level-up, i think it would match.

Vapore wrote:
Here's two monsters stuck in a mountain.