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Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:12 pm
by kelchy
I don't think you need a game to look exactly like xen in order to get the same feel as xen. I think Evidyon so far is quite good. Karl, you have done an amazing job.

Anyways, there's only a few things that don't make it 'feel' like xenimus to me:

I don't feel like there's a reason to level higher due to everyone having the same gear.
-I like how it's relatively easy in Evidyon to find nice gear which progresses as you hunt stronger things. However, in xen, I really liked how the highest end gear was so hard to find and/or trade for.
Basically I like how items are now, but I'm hoping in the future that the uber rare/high end items are alot better than the good items already and much harder to find. (this gives people a reason to level up and hunt).
That's what bothered me about xen, if you aren't rich, your gear usually sucks (you're either rich or poor). So far in Evidyon it just takes a small bit of luck and hunting to find good enough items to hold your own with. Thus I think the current good items would be better considered as 'mid level' items which are attainable by hunting....just add in a few ridiculously powerful and rare items and much more people will want to find them :)

Stats don't seem to have as much of an effect as in xen.

Adding dungeons/shrines/mazes/bosses (whatever you can think of).

Epic spell sounds.


Having the xen feel does not necessarily mean it has to look exactly like xen. It's about xenimus gameplay and content.

Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:57 pm
by Vapore
kelchy wrote:I don't feel like there's a reason to level higher due to everyone having the same gear.


Slow down man... This is ALPHA, I'm almost 100% sure items won't be as easy to get as they are now.

Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:17 am
by kelchy
Vapore wrote:
kelchy wrote:I don't feel like there's a reason to level higher due to everyone having the same gear.


Slow down man... This is ALPHA, I'm almost 100% sure items won't be as easy to get as they are now.


Yes I realize that. Thus me being clear with certain things...an alpha would fail if people didn't talk about issues/future concerns am I right?

Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:57 pm
by Karl G.
kelchy wrote:...an alpha would fail if people didn't talk about issues/future concerns am I right?


Yes, you're right. However (this isn't directed at anyone in particular) I would prefer that criticism be leveled in a constructive fashion. Kelchy, the way you phrased your comment on gear was perfect:

kelchy wrote:-I like how it's relatively easy in Evidyon to find nice gear which progresses as you hunt stronger things. However, in xen, I really liked how the highest end gear was so hard to find and/or trade for.


You say something about how the game is now, how it could be better, and why. This is exactly right.

That said, Vapore is correct as well--don't get too worked up if I don't change something right away. I have a lot of work to do, and this is Alpha after all :D if I agree with your idea, I'll implement it at some point--at a time from now in proportion to how critical the feature is.

Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:30 pm
by ascent
wtf karl you spammer! double post!

Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:28 pm
by 9sam1
Yea, someone ban him. Obvious Troll.

Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:25 am
by Karl G.
Uh...wasn't me >.>

Re: Straying to far from xen...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:12 am
by kelchy
Karl G. wrote:
kelchy wrote:...an alpha would fail if people didn't talk about issues/future concerns am I right?


Yes, you're right. However (this isn't directed at anyone in particular) I would prefer that criticism be leveled in a constructive fashion. Kelchy, the way you phrased your comment on gear was perfect:

kelchy wrote:-I like how it's relatively easy in Evidyon to find nice gear which progresses as you hunt stronger things. However, in xen, I really liked how the highest end gear was so hard to find and/or trade for.


You say something about how the game is now, how it could be better, and why. This is exactly right.

That said, Vapore is correct as well--don't get too worked up if I don't change something right away. I have a lot of work to do, and this is Alpha after all :D if I agree with your idea, I'll implement it at some point--at a time from now in proportion to how critical the feature is.


I wasn't trying to come off like I was all worked up. Just trying to be clear and constructive...I know sometimes it's hard for clear communication via text on a message board. My apologies if I came off a little strong.

I guess I'm just pretty happy/excited to see a good xen-type of game to come out with a creator who gets things done and is great to the community.

I probably should have said first "Here's a list of long-term goals/suggestions:______________"