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Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:19 am
by marzuku
Casters have way too good an agility scaling atm, been checking them and some of them do as much as 300 dmg at lvl 25 which is sick compared to a warrior on the same level, ive been asking around though and some are keeping it a secret and others are not.

None of the high dmg casters are currently using agility points, at lvl 24 bobluie said he had 43 int and he was doing 280 damage a beam and quite fast.
I However, lvl 30 with two spectral swords and ive got a balanced spec with 37 str 27 agility i do a max damage of 240-250? not even that faster than him really.

this needs to be fixxed, they have pretty much been able to grind twice as fast as us with less effort, and the same goes with pvp if they have unlimited mana and high dmg, and speed aint stopping them.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:38 am
by Stick Stickly
Well bob may be stacking points in intel and agil but I two shot him everytime I kill him. When you stack those stats your hp is crap

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:37 am
by Glorfindelus
marzuku wrote:Casters have way too good an agility scaling atm, been checking them and some of them do as much as 300 dmg at lvl 25 which is sick compared to a warrior on the same level, ive been asking around though and some are keeping it a secret and others are not.

None of the high dmg casters are currently using agility points, at lvl 24 bobluie said he had 43 int and he was doing 280 damage a beam and quite fast.
I However, lvl 30 with two spectral swords and ive got a balanced spec with 37 str 27 agility i do a max damage of 240-250? not even that faster than him really.

this needs to be fixxed, they have pretty much been able to grind twice as fast as us with less effort, and the same goes with pvp if they have unlimited mana and high dmg, and speed aint stopping them.


Just use kopeshes, you'll start raping him :P lol.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:10 am
by marzuku
Glorfindelus wrote:
marzuku wrote:Casters have way too good an agility scaling atm, been checking them and some of them do as much as 300 dmg at lvl 25 which is sick compared to a warrior on the same level, ive been asking around though and some are keeping it a secret and others are not.

None of the high dmg casters are currently using agility points, at lvl 24 bobluie said he had 43 int and he was doing 280 damage a beam and quite fast.
I However, lvl 30 with two spectral swords and ive got a balanced spec with 37 str 27 agility i do a max damage of 240-250? not even that faster than him really.

this needs to be fixxed, they have pretty much been able to grind twice as fast as us with less effort, and the same goes with pvp if they have unlimited mana and high dmg, and speed aint stopping them.


Just use kopeshes, you'll start raping him :P lol.


hehe well i am currently dualwielding them for fun.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:25 pm
by ffrank
The damage is too great for cons to matter as a stat, unless you're a Warrior. It's either you or them.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:05 am
by Morn
ffrank wrote:The damage is too great for cons to matter as a stat, unless you're a Warrior. It's either you or them.


Mages get same armour as meelee. +Armour spells
To make up for the armour spells, meelee get extra HP

It should balance it out. I'd defend the need for mages to have more hp from cons if I actually believed any mage has given cons enough testing to determine how big the gap is.

Actually, if there are any adepts @ lvl 25 we can test % dif.

At lvl 25 with no gear 31 constitution 451 HP

At lvl 30 with no gear my warrior with 26 constitution has 676 HP so I am more curious than when I started typing this reply.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:31 am
by marzuku
Morn wrote:
ffrank wrote:The damage is too great for cons to matter as a stat, unless you're a Warrior. It's either you or them.


Mages get same armour as meelee. +Armour spells
To make up for the armour spells, meelee get extra HP

It should balance it out. I'd defend the need for mages to have more hp from cons if I actually believed any mage has given cons enough testing to determine how big the gap is.

Actually, if there are any adepts @ lvl 25 we can test % dif.

At lvl 25 with no gear 31 constitution 451 HP

At lvl 30 with no gear my warrior with 26 constitution has 676 HP so I am more curious than when I started typing this reply.


Which is exactly why i posted the xen stats calculator, so you could see what EJ did and maybe learn from it?

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:28 am
by Morn
marzuku wrote:Which is exactly why i posted the xen stats calculator, so you could see what EJ did and maybe learn from it?


1- Not related to what I posted. Why the hell did you quote me.

2- I doubt they need the actual stat calculator. Most of the equations used to make the Calculator are common knowledge.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:22 pm
by willy nilly
lol poor marz always coping poo

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:21 am
by marzuku
Morn wrote:
Morn wrote:
marzuku wrote:Which is exactly why i posted the xen stats calculator, so you could see what EJ did and maybe learn from it?


1- Not related to what I posted. Why the hell did you quote me.

2- I doubt they need the actual stat calculator. Most of the equations used to make the Calculator are common knowledge.

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just because i tried to kill you doesnt mean i cant quote your sorry a$$, grow up its a beta game.

i quoted you because you wrote that devs need to find out who gets what and on what scale, the freaking xen calc already has that done for you, f-tard.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:51 am
by Morn
marzuku wrote:just because i tried to kill you doesnt mean i cant quote your sorry a$$, grow up its a beta game.


1- You're on my poo-list because you decided to poo-talk the development of this game and give up faith on it. I'm waiting for you to keep up your word and quit the game.

2- Don't quote irrelevant posts, that is called spamming.

3- They put language filters in the forum because they don't want those words expressed here. Stop violating the

i quoted you because you wrote that devs need to find out who gets what and on what scale, the freaking xen calc already has that done for you, f-tard.


Sorry that you miss-read my post but I wanted the players to discover how the developers have scaled Evidyon not how Thayer scaled Xenimus.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:16 am
by marzuku
Morn wrote:
marzuku wrote:just because i tried to kill you doesnt mean i cant quote your sorry a$$, grow up its a beta game.


1- You're on my poo-list because you decided to poo-talk the development of this game and give up faith on it. I'm waiting for you to keep up your word and quit the game.

2- Don't quote irrelevant posts, that is called spamming.

3- They put language filters in the forum because they don't want those words expressed here. Stop violating the

i quoted you because you wrote that devs need to find out who gets what and on what scale, the freaking xen calc already has that done for you, f-tard.


Sorry that you miss-read my post but I wanted the players to discover how the developers have scaled Evidyon not how Thayer scaled Xenimus.


you just fail, i didnt tell them to copy xenimus, i told them to learn from it, on your "poo list" naaaw, im happy to join all the others.

Irrelevant posting would be your personal vendetta here, not my suggestion to solve the main problem i presented in the first place.

A personal vendetta doesnt justify stupidity.

Re: Caster's Agility scaling issue.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:27 am
by Morn
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